Podcast: Purpose and Fulfillment with Lynne Twist

November 03, 2022
  • Brent Stewart
  • Brent Stewart
    Digital Strategy & Barry-Wehmiller的内容主管

Our friend Lynne Twist is a global visionary and pro-activist committed to creating a future that is environmentally sustainable, spiritually fulfilling, and socially just. She is the cofounder of the Pachamama Alliance, the founder of the Soul of Money Institute, and she is also on Conscious Capitalism’s Board of Directors.

你们之前听过琳恩的播客. 在过去的四十年里, 她已经与100多家公司合作过,50个国家的000人, 以及许多组织和公司, inspiring them to expand how they see themselves and empowering them to express their commitment and creativity.

琳恩写了一本新书, Living a Committed Life: Finding Freedom and Fulfillment in a Purpose Larger Than Yourself. It came out of a conference she spoke at many years ago, 她就是在那里第一次见到推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜的CEO, Bob Chapman.

她的朋友,杰克·坎菲尔德,《 心灵鸡汤 series, encouraged her to share her many stories gained from her decades as a global thought leader working to end hunger and poverty, 保护亚马逊雨林, 增强女性领导力, 改变人们与金钱的关系.

所有这些都汇集在这本书里, these stories demonstrate how a commitment to a purpose larger than yourself can enliven and empower you. 它会让你看到新的可能性, 把崩溃变成突破, 采取有效的行动, and draw on resources and capacities you may not know you have.

On this podcast, Lynne and I have a wide-ranging conversation on the nature of purpose, 目的在商业中的重要性, and how it can help us turn this world from “me-centric” to “we-centric.”

你会在她的书里读到, 林恩的导师之一就是那位著名的工程师, architect, inventor, scientist, writer, systems theorist, philosopher and futurist, Buckminster Fuller. We’re going to start out with Lynne talking about what she learned from this great mind. I think it sets the stage for the rest of our conversation.

 

 

Transcript

 

Lynne Twist:

我知道巴基的事,想听他说话. 听说过他的想法吗. 他发明了测地线圆顶和其他东西. I went to hear him speak. 我完全被他迷住了. I mean really blown away. Like, I couldn't even function after hearing him speak. I was so moved. I wasn't moved by the content because I didn't even understand it. 这是千真万确的事实. It was way over my head.

He had a utility table in front of him where he used to talk about the intellectual integrity of the universe, and he used models. He had a tetrahedron and an icosahedron on a table. 我不知道他在说什么. That's honestly the truth. But at one point he walked out in front of the table and looked right at the audience. There were 2000 people. Everybody, I think, thought he was looking at them, but I was sure he was looking at me.

He said, "Now I'm going to say the most important thing I've ever said or ever will say." I thought, "Oh, my God, I've got to understand this one. If I don't understand anything in this whole lecture, I'm going to understand this one thing.“所以,我坐直了,就像你一样. Adjusted my posture. 真的准备好让他栽赃给推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜了吗.

他像这样伸出手说, “人类已经跨越了一个非常重要的门槛, 这个门槛改变了一切. We won't see the result of it for a long, long time, but it's happened.“在过去的50到100年里,推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜已经跨越了它. I want to say that because Bucky always talked about huge swaths of time.

He said, "We now live in a world" – this is 1976 – “where we're doing so much more with so much less, that we live in a world now where there is clearly, without question, enough for everyone, everywhere, 有一个健康和富有成效的生活. And we will continue doing so much more with so much less. That is the direction, the trajectory of our science, of our technology, of our genius. That is the direction of the human species, the human family. So, it's absolutely, positively clear that there is enough for everyone, everywhere, 有一个健康和富有成效的生活." When he said the word enough, sufficient resources. There is enough.

我的脊椎上有个昆达里尼的东西. I started to cry. I didn't even understand what he was talking about still, but I was like ... 我的手开始冒汗. I knew something had been said that went right into my heart.

And then he said, "That means we shift the paradigm from a paradigm of lack, or not enough, 或不足或匮乏, 你拿我的钱做代价吗, or I make it at your expense because there's not enough for both of us. 这是一个非你即我的范例. 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜从“你或我”的模式转变过来, 到一个足够或充足的范例, 这是一个你和我的范例, where you and I can both make it at no one's expense." So, he said, "We go from a you or me paradigm, to a you and me paradigm."

But he said, here's the really important part, he said, "Enough is not an amount of anything. 充足不是任何东西的数量. 这是一种生存的方式. It will take 50 years for us to realize a shift in the way of being. That there is enough for everyone, everywhere, to have healthy and productive life. In somewhere around 50 years, we'll start to get it. Because all the institutions of humankind are embedded in a you or me understanding of the world. 稀缺的世界观. A mindset of scarcity. The economy is designed from a you or me understanding of the world. Governance is designed, is rooted in a you or me understanding of the world. Education is rooted in a you or me understanding of the world."

And then he said, "Religion is rooted in a you or me understanding of the world. It will take 50 years for all of our major institutions,于是他给许多人起了名, "to become so dysfunctional and start to collapse, 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜再也无法修复它们了. That we will have to create a whole new set of institutions and contexts, 基于一个你和我对世界的理解."

他预测这将在大约50年后发生. He said that in 1976. 猜猜现在几点了? As the governance dissolves in shambles and divisiveness, as the economy starts to be completely dysfunctional, 因为教育功能失调, the healthcare system, and the climate crisis, in many ways, 他预言了那种危机, 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜现在所处的巨大危机. And said that this breakdown was predictable and will be the source of a total and complete breakthrough.

So, when I say, "What did I learn from Buckminster Fuller?" I learned about sufficiency and enough, which I realize is the radical truth about life. 这和富足不同. It's enough, which is being met with the universe, with what you need and want. Which then can be become abundance, but not from lack, from enough. And I learned about the you or me and the you and me paradigm. It really was the source of the work I did on ending world hunger with The Hunger Project.

Buckminster Fuller and Werner Erhard, who founded the Est work, which is called Landmark now. They met shortly after this, because I helped orchestrate that meeting. Out of that meeting, 这两个天才的对话, 消除世界饥饿的承诺就此诞生, 就是后来的《饥饿计划, which became where I worked and where I gave a huge chunk of my life. That was a long answer to that question, but Bucky was just, and still is, absolutely seminal.

Then the other thing is that he coined the phrase, "A little individual can make a difference that impacts all humanity.“他这么做是因为那是他的生活. He was going to ... 他在27岁时就考虑过自杀, when he was a failure in his business and he couldn't feed his family. 然后他对宇宙说, “如果我是一个被抛弃的人, 也许与其把自己扔出去, 我要给自己做个实验, a laboratory. Can one human being, ordinary human being, make a difference that impacts all of humanity in a positive way?"

所以,他带着这样的承诺生活. So, he, 给你一个真正的答案, was the first person I encountered that I realized was living a committed life. That he turned his life over to absolute and total service to see if he could really make a difference. 所以,他对我的影响很大.

Brent Stewart:

你的书是由许多故事组成的. 你在生活中遇到的人. 那些影响过你的人. 巴基显然是一个人. 你刚才说的一切, I hear a lot of your work and what you learned from him. But that probably was one of the stepping stones into you finding your purpose, 这是你书的主要内容吗. Tell me what it took for you to find your purpose and how important that was for you.

Lynne:

实际上,我觉得我很幸运. 在正确的时间出现在正确的地点. 这并不是对每个人都有帮助, 所以我可能不应该这么说, but I really do believe that that's kind of what happened to me. 但我也注意到了. 我想你找到了你的目标 ... 宇宙希望推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜找到自己的目标. 因为我觉得推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜到了, I think you and I, 听我讲话的人, were born now because we have a contribution to make. 你有独特的地方, unique about me, unique about every single person that they're here to contribute.

I believe that life is given to us so that we can give it. Along the way, I've been fortunate to meet people who have encouraged me to realize that I have a unique contribution to make. 如果我能融入那个法则, my life will flourish, and I will make the difference that's mine to make.

So, the how is sort of hard to answer because it's a lot of recognizing how blessed you are and having that framework to realize that life is not happening to you, 你不是生活的受害者, it's happening for you. 即使是悲剧事件. Like the death of my father when I was 14, which is a horrible blow to our family. There was no warning. 他心脏病发作,突然去世,年仅50岁. Very young. My mother was 46. I was 14. 我是家里四个孩子中的老三. 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜当时就想"天啊.一天晚上,推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜都去睡觉了. 第二天早上,除了爸爸,推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜都醒了. Everything revolved around him, so it was a huge shock.

However, 当我真正回顾我的人生时, losing my father at that age kind of took me on an inner journey that has served me since in great ways. 那是我真正开始我的内心生活的时候. 我不知道该往哪里走,只能向内走. 如果你看到生活为你而发生, not to you, even the tragic things, 甚至是父亲的去世, 或者破产,离婚,生病, you can see that you're being schooled and you're being led to your committed life. That's what I think is really happening for people. But if we think we're the victim of something, then life is a bummer.

But if we pay attention, the signs, I think they're everywhere. It often is, what breaks your heart is your life's work. What you can't stand or tolerate about the world might be what it's time for you to resolve.

When I think about Bob Chapman and his seeing the pain and suffering in corporations, that he couldn't stand it. He became one of the great heroes and sheroes of our time, to transform the corporate culture to be truly human.

In my case, 只知道孩子们很饿, 他们没有足够的食物, that they couldn't live, 他们的父母无法养活他们, it's just like, oh, unbearable. I was also a follower of Mother Teresa, as many people were. 不管你是不是天主教徒, you couldn't help but notice there was a living saint walking this earth.

所以,对我来说有很多迹象. Buckminster Fuller and Werner Erhard meeting and coming up with The Hunger project, 一个结束世界饥饿的项目, was a perfect fit for me. 我有三个小孩. 我无法想象不能养活他们. And also, I was working very deeply in the work of transformation, and the approach of The Hunger Project is not aid or development, but transformation. That was my sweet spot. So, it showed me the path.

And then later in life, 在做了25年之后, 我得到了一个非常难得的机会, and really, I'll call it a call, 亚马逊地区的土著居民, to work with them on preserving the sacred headwaters of that precious ecosystem. 这成为了我人生的下一个篇章.

但我注意到了, 我想这就是我想说的, to the signs, 我知道我的生命是被赐予的. 生活的背景已经给了推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜. It's our privilege to give it to that which wants to happen, wants to come through us. Comes from being awake, I think, and being awakened by wonderful people like Buckminster Fuller, like Werner Erhard. Est培训和Landmark工作也是如此.

Being really deeply influenced by Brother David Steindl-Rast, the great Benedictine monk who is the living icon of gratefulness. 遇见像鲍勃·查普曼这样的人. I'm just aware, and I think everybody can be if they just realize the signs are everywhere. Even the pandemic happened for us, maybe not to us. Showed us ways to reboot, rethink, reimagine, revitalize, renew our lives. Even though it was painful and horrible for so many people. 人们生病了,我也生病了. People lost loved ones. I lost people I knew. At the same time, 如果推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜把生活看成是为推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜而发生的, not to us, the signs become clear and the path begins to open.

Brent:

One of the things I know that you have talked about before, and certainly in your interactions with our company and with Bob, is purpose in business. 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜花点时间来讨论一下这个问题. 你认为企业在这一切中的角色是什么? And what is the impact of businesses realizing their purpose?

Lynne:

If you look at history, there's different periods where the largest and most important institution rises up and becomes what defines things, 就像以前的君主制一样, 然后是很久以前的教堂. Now, it's business. Business is the largest. 然后是政府. 但现在,企业比政府更大. 商业是地球上最大的机构. Therefore, from great privilege and great opportunities and great success becomes great responsibility.

I think that businesses were originally chartered way back in the British Empire, they had to have a purpose or they didn't get incorporated. They had to have a purpose that served the greater good. They had to. 没有这个你就不能成立公司. That's really the way business was formulated originally, as far as I know. Incorporation, incorporating, embodying a purpose that is for the good of humanity. Once it started to all be about money and profit and shareholders, and all that stuff, and quarterly returns, 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜失去了中心主题, that through line.

Because the world now is demanding that business step up and step out and step into the great challenges of our time, 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜需要通过线路恢复, 并意识到大多数人, as Bob ... This is what Bob preaches, and what you preach, too. That most people are living inside of a business institution of some kind. 真正滋养他们的生命, 让他们得到滋养, and to have the company be of benefit to the world, it absolutely must have a purpose that's greater than profitability and earnings per share, 以及所有需要测量的东西. We need to reboot everything, especially business. I love that Bob and Barry-Wehmiller is doing that in all the programs that you do for companies.

我是有意识资本主义的董事会成员, 是Raj Sisodia创立的吗, 谁和鲍勃一起写了这本书. As I see companies become more and more dedicated to a purpose larger themselves, I feel so encouraged. I'm working right now to ... in conversation with big, big, big companies like amazon.com, like Google, like the Walton company, to engage them in the Amazon rainforest. I mean amazon.看在上帝的份上,这是他们的名字. The Amazon rainforest is getting close to absolute collapse. Will be curtains for not just the species that live in the Amazon, 亚马逊是推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜气候系统的源头. What better way to save the Amazon than take the power of the largest consumer company on earth and focus a lot of its attention and intention towards preserving the Amazon rainforest. The source of our climate system, the source of life, really. So, that's an example of, and a challenge that I'm making to that company.

But I also see, in real estate companies that have made a fortune on real estate, they should ... should is the wrong word, but I invite them to take on the homeless issue. If you're going to make that kind of money and drive up the real estate prices for your own benefit, 把这些人都排除在外, then you got to take all those profits and reinvest them for the people that can't afford to live, 他们住在街上. You got to do that, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

So, every business has its shadow that needs to be addressed, 我认为是商业本身, 使它的灵魂具有完整性. So the integrity of the soul, of the company, is intact. I think we're at a time where business now is conscious enough, 而世界是在一个足够的意识, 而且这些危机对企业来说已经足够大了. 我的意思是,企业喜欢大挑战. 商业有强大的力量金钱,权力,卓越.

我在我所谓的社会利润领域. I don't call it non-profit because I don't like that name. 我不喜欢别人用推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜不是的人来称呼我. 我喜欢别人用推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜的身份来称呼我. 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜为社会创造了巨大的利润. I challenge business, because business has got the excellence in the rigor that the social profit sector that I'm in doesn't have. 它也有资金和影响力. Yet, the social profit sector who doesn't have any of that, 或者没有足够的能量, 承担了世界上最大的问题.

We need to work together. 这就是鲍勃所宣扬和教导的. 这就是你所宣扬和教导的. 这就是我所宣扬和教导的. We need to work ... We absolutely have to. Business must be on the playing field in a big way, and derive its central purpose from the challenges we face as a human community. And then wonderful to make a financial profit, but that's not the purpose of business. That's crazy. 这让推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜都很疯狂. It makes us all crazy. It makes business do things that are destroying the very life support system on which we depend, for profit. Not wittingly, not intentionally, 而是因为它偏离了最初的目的, which is to incorporate a purpose that serves the common good.

Brent:

You know what? You said something earlier when you were talking about Bucky, and I want to get the phrasing right. It's, "We've gotten to the place where it's you or me.“你是这么说的吗?

Lynne:

Yeah. It's a scarcity mindset, that there's not enough to go around and somebody's going to be left out. “越多越好”的心态. And a "this is just the way that it is" mindset that haunts us, so that we operate in a you or me. Either you make it at my expense, or I make it at your expense. But that's the paradigm we've been living in for a long, long time. It's possible now, he said, and I agree, that you and I can both make it at nobody's expense. 足够推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜所有人吃的了. 地球上有足够的食物. There is enough water. There is enough food. I know these things. I know we're in danger of not having enough food in water. Yes, but that's because of greed, not because of need. Gandhi said there's enough for our need, not for our greed.

So, we are in a position to take care of everyone, everywhere. 地球上有足够的食物 to feed 12 billion people. 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜不是120亿,而是7亿.6. 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜处在一个时空, where if we can reframe, recontextualize, reboot our mindset so we see that there is enough for everyone, 所有人都在推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜的监视下, 现在是全员出动的时候, then we'll make it. 我是说,不是说推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜做不到. But I have full faith in the human condition and the human family. 我记不住你的问题了. Am I answering it?

Brent:

Well, I wanted to get that phrasing straight first. But when you talk about that you or me paradigm that Bucky had spoke about, 这可能是人生目的的一部分. We talk about it at Barry-Wehmiller on the individual level, that trying to change that paradigm could be part of a business's purpose. Are we seeing that happen? Are we there yet? How is that working out right now in terms of trying to change that paradigm?

Lynne:

Well, I wish I could give you a more positive report. If you look at our political landscape in the United States, it's all you or me. I mean, you're terrible and I'm wonderful, or I'm wonderful and she's terrible. 我是说,这不是你就是我. 这都是稀缺范式. 一切都是,让别人错了. 这都是关于位置的.

Unfortunately, it's almost like gossip on steroids. If you look at the political ads, I would call it gossip. I would call it absolute total gossip on steroids. 我是说,这到底是怎么回事? It's not happening as fast as I would, let me put it that way.

Having said that, at the same time, there's a hunger, a yearning for developing the kind of spiritual soil of our lives, of our country, of our world. 还有像你一样的人,像鲍勃,像我. 世界各地都有冥想老师. There's yoga. 人们在做瑜伽和冥想. They're not necessarily going to church like they used to. Maybe that's just not the frame people want anymore. Some are going to church and God bless them for it. But there's a longing for, "A care of the soul," as Thomas Moore would say.

This is a little bit maybe not on purpose for your particular podcast, 但我确实觉得自己是神圣的女性, if I can put it that way, 开始传遍每个人吗, men and women, in a big way, 为了缓和父权制, the leftover colonialism, the dominator model, the, “我能做得比你好," competitive edge thing. 这是有用的,我的天啊,是吗. You've watched the Olympics and you're proud of people who win, but you're proud of people who beat their own record, really. 这就是他们正在做的. Being more excellent and using competition for excellence rather than destroying the other guy or gal.

我对竞争有一种健康的尊重, 但我认为推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜渴望的是合作, co-laboring, 真正的人类领导力是什么. Co-laboring, laboring together, collaboration, realizing that you and I are ... we're in this together. 这不是你赢我输. No, we all win. 这是一个双赢的世界. We just have to go there. 很多人都在研究这个. You're working on that. I'm working on that.

也许推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜还处在边缘, but I know it's the underground waters that are coming up to be the mainstream. The underground waters, in everybody, are longing for a deeper relationship with the soul, 与推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜人类更深层次的关系. More compassion, more love, more forgiveness, more courage. To not put competition down, it's produced miracles, but now we're kind of on overdrive.

有一个来自bah í人的预言. They say that, "The bird of humanity has two great wings, a male wing and a female wing." The bird of humanity has had its male wing extended, 经过几个世纪的充分扩展和充分表达. While the female wing in the bird of humanity has been somewhat folded in, not yet fully expressed.

So, the male wing, in order to keep the bird of humanity afloat has become overdeveloped, over muscular, and in fact, has had to become violent. So, the bird of humanity is flying in circles and has been for several hundred years. And that the first century of the third millennium, that's where we are, first century, third millennium. 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜才做了22年.

在第三个千年的第一个世纪, the prophecy says, "The feminine wing, the female wing, in all of us, in women and men, 会在这100年的周期中充分表现出来吗. The male wing, in all of us, can relax a little bit. And the bird of humanity, instead of flying in circles, will soar."

I love that prophecy because it doesn't make masculine wrong and feminine right. It doesn't do the stuff that sometimes happens right now. 但它让推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜都意识到,“哦,我的上帝. We can relax some of this drive and intensity and franticness to beat the other guy or gal, 和他们合作." We can relax a little bit on that end of things and then we can let this soulfulness, this hunger for meaning, 这种对目标的强烈追求, give it more time, more energy, more love, 因为这能让推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜飞起来, have us soar.

I think that's what's happening, and maybe it's going to take 100 years. You're contributing to it. I'm contributing to it. 现在是全员出动的世界. Can we be all hands on deck in a way that we're not trying to defeat each other, but we're looking to work together in ways that have everybody win? It's heartbreaking to watch the political landscape, people trying to destroy each other instead of saying what they're for. 他们只是反对什么. It's heartbreaking, because I know it's not good for them. They hate it, too. Maybe that's the last throes of this competitive thing that's kind of out of control. 但我知道你所做的工作, the work that I'm doing, the work that many millions and millions of people are doing is the ...

You know the metaphor? The caterpillar, 在它进化的某个阶段, the imaginal cells begin to find each other and cluster. And if enough of them cluster, they become the genetic directors of the fuzzy little brown thing. 其他细胞变成了营养汤, and the imaginal cells create the absolute miracle of a butterfly.

Maybe Bob, and you and me, and Barry-Wehmiller, and The Hunger Project, and Pachamama Alliance, my organization, 金钱之魂研究所, and my book, it's part of the imaginal cells making the butterfly. Because who could predict a butterfly from a little brown worm, you know? It's incredible. 所以,我觉得推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜正处于一个史诗般的时代. I'm so glad to be alive and participate, even though it's painful and difficult and challenging.

Brent:

Well, 你之前说过, 你之前说了几句话, but you were talking about thinking about life happening for us, 而不是生活发生在推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜身上. You were also talking about that in respect to the pandemic. I think one of the things that we've been seeing over the last couple years, in terms of viewing the pandemic as happening for us, is the way it's starting to reshape how people are thinking about their work lives, 甚至评估它们的目的. Instead of going to a company that doesn't care about them, demanding to work for a company that will care about them.

I guess that's part of the hope part of this right now, 在这个改变你或我的范例中, that people are realizing that they can have a purpose greater than sustenance. 努力从结构内部改变这一点, and hoping to change the structure because they know what is needed and what can happen.

Lynne:

有时候是黎明前的黑暗. I like to think that God, maybe it's just all this noise that's in the culture, and all the social media stuff and all the algorithms that make you believe your ideology is the only one. That you keep getting fed your own stuff deeper and deeper and deeper. 它让你的大脑 ... those little rivulets in your brain, those little ski tracks, go deeper and deeper and deeper. 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜只是陷入了这一切.

I mean, 当我看CNN或福克斯新闻的时候, or whoever I watch, I think, “他们在说什么??" It's like a completely different stream of information than the other guy. 它只是不断地自我强化. If we could broaden our ... 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜应该能够扩大. Because we've got the internet, it can tell us everything. Except it's oriented now to make us believe our own stuff.

Anyway, I agree that people are just leaving situations that don't serve them and going to places where people care. I love that. I love the migration to companies that make that kind of a difference with their employees, their workers, their team. I love people wanting their companies to have a purpose larger than profit.

I love that we're starting to measure with B Corps and conscious capitalism. 除了底线以外的事情. The bottom line starts to include the bottom billion on this planet. The bottom billion people, the earth, the other species. 我喜欢这一切. 我想让它快点发生. I'm doing everything I can to accelerate it, and I know you are too. 但我喜欢它的发生. 我认为这是真的.

People who are historians, they say, "We're in the greatest epic transformation after transition. 这甚至可能是一次进化的飞跃." That's what I pray for. 我认为推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜正处于进化的飞跃中.

就像我听到的这个美妙的短语, “当第一条鱼爬上陆地的时候, 突然间,大象和鹰成为可能.“当你想到这一点时,这真是太酷了. 在陆地上爬行的鱼是什么? Is it Bob and all his beautiful talks, and his success and his awards? Is it starting to create an evolutionary leap for business? I pray that it is.

Is my book and my work creating evolutionary leap in our relationship with money in life? 推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜真的准备好迈出这一步了吗? I think we are. 我想人们都很渴望它. 这就像是黎明前的黑暗. 事情变得如此糟糕.

There's another phrase that I really appreciate from Reverend Michael Beckwith. 他说:“疼痛会推你,直到视力拉你. 疼痛推动视力." I love that. 因为推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜现在很痛苦, 但如果推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜能创造一个足够强大的愿景, 它会让推荐全球十大博彩公司排行榜摆脱痛苦, towards a new vision. I think that's what Bob's work is all about, and your work and my work. 希望每个人的工作.

 


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